Do Muslims 17 Times a Day(in their 5 Daily Prayers) actually say Allah,in Effect,says Christians and Jews are Evil?Technically-speaking,Yes

| June 30, 2013 | Comments (13)

The situation is the following:

1.Good Muslims pray 5 times a day.

2.One of the prayers is the first chapter of the Koran,called Al-Fatiha(the Opener),which is only 7 verses.

3.Muslims pray it no less than 17 times a day.

4.And more than 5,000 times a year.

Sources

http://www.islam.com/questions/1468/al-fatiha-17-times-a-day-whyy

http://numerical19.tripod.com/al-fatiha_omer.htm

The critique regarding Al-Fatiha

1.Now and then you hear that the 17 times Muslims pray it they are speaking bad about Christians and Jews,saying that Allah is angry with the two groups,and says they have gone astray.

2.Many Muslims say that is NOT true,that Al-Fatiha in no way says that.The phrase “not of those against who You(Note:Allah) are angry, nor of those who are astray” refers ONLY to evil people everywhere,whatever their beliefs.What is the real situation?

Chapter 1 of the Koran(it is only 7 verses)

“In the Name of God, the Merciful, the Compassionate

Praise belongs to God, the Lord of all Being,the All-merciful, the All-compassionate,the Master of the Day of Doom.

You(Note:you,Allah) only we serve(Note:we,the Muslims)

To You(Note:you,Allah) alone we(Note:we,the Muslims) pray for succour.

Guide us(Note:us,the Muslims) in the straight path,the path of those who You have blessed,

Not of those against who You(Note:Allah) are angry, nor of those who are astray.”

In the Koran Christians and Jews are cursed “till the Day of Resurrection”

And so what?What does that have to do with Al-Fatiha?

The detail is that because of THAT:

1.Then “not of those against who You(Note:Allah) are angry, nor of those who are astray” would,by logic, include not only evildoers of all shades and colors,beliefs and non-beliefs

2.But even more so Christians and Jews.

Regarding Christians

1.Allah felt anger toward Christians for X reason and decided to curse them all “till the Day of Resurrection“.

2.Where is the justice/equity in that?Why curse a group for generation after generation?

Chapter 5:14:

“And with those who say:

1.“We are Christians” We took compact; and they have forgotten a portion of that they were reminded of.

2.So We(Note:Allah) have stirred up among them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection; and God will assuredly tell them of the things they wrought.”

In the Koran Jews are also cursed “till the Day of Resurrection”

1.Some Jews of Muhammad’s time said that Allah was powerless,impotent,”his hand was shackled/fettered/chained“.

2.So Allah felt anger and cursed them all “till the Day of Resurrection“.

3.Notice it is in the very same chapter as the curse against the Christians(chapter 5).

Here is the crime of judeophobia,xenophobia,intolerance,bigotry.

Chapter 5:64:

They (Note:the Jews) have said, “God’s hand is fettered/chained.” Fettered are their hands, and they are cursed for what they have said. No, but His hands are outspread; He expends how He will. And what has been sent down to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in insolence and unbelief;

and We(Note:Allah) have cast between them enmity and hatred, till the Day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, God will extinguish it. They hasten about the earth, to do corruption there; and God loves not the workers of corruption.”

Why is there Christianophobia and Judeophobia?

1.Ok,Judaism and Christianity are ideologies,a set of ideas,like communism,atheism,capitalism.

2.But chapter 5:14 and chapter 5:64 curses the people who believe in those ideas,the Christians and the Jews.Real people who have feelings.

3.There is a difference,to be against the ideology would be Judaismophobia and Christianityphobia,and there is nothing wrong with being intellectally against a belief system,even cursing it,why not? But the situation is not like that.

To verify the Koranic citations to be cited go to quranbrowser.com, which has:

1.Six translations by Muslims.

2.Four translations by Non-Muslims.

3.The text in Arabic,with Latin letters.

http://quranbrowser.com/

 

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  • winniec

    So it is OK for Muslims to hate ‘Christians’ and ‘Jews’ (rather than their ideologies), but it is WRONG for Jews and Christians to deplore the intolerant ideology of Islam that calls for the deaths of Jews and Christians. Muslims believe they have superior rights to ‘others’ and are therefore above criticism.

  • winniec

    Repeating 17 times a day that Allah despises Jews and Christians is OK.
    Do Muslims feel good about that, or do they feel uneasy? Are you bigoted?

    • Salman Hossain

      i feel great about that!!!

      just like how the jews spread lies 24-7 that Muslims did 9-11…when they did it…so it makes sense to curse them….they always cause mischief and corruption in the earth – mufsideen al fy’il ard..

      there may be one or two jewish individuals here and there who are good…but its the truth…most of them need to get wiped out…

  • Salman Hossain

    umm…idiots..Jews are truly evil and sick people – the Qur’an is 100% ABSOLUTELY CORRECT that jews are cursed by God and Christians are misguided/astray because they don’t even know the proper concept of God and they can’t figure out who Christ was…..jews are BEHIND EVERY WAR – 90% of wars in the planet!!! They are Evil as they say God’s role is minimal in this earth…and he can’t do much or he’s a lazy prick who rested on the 7th day…such EVIL can ONLY come from the mouth of the filthy jews

    what is so difficult for people to understand this concept? Qur’an is 100% right!

    if you idiots were reading your scriptures right u’d know 100% that Christ cursed the jews for being vipers and murderers and being the sons of the devil….and u Christians luv the kikes?!? SHAME ON YOU!!!

    • Kiwi

      I am truly sad that there is such hate contained within your ideology – it must make every muslim hate this world when they realise their enemies are so much superior to them in every field, your hate has kept you oppressed and backwards. Hard to handle now is has become so obvious to the rest of the world that your prophet was only in it for himself – and his followers are now paying the price because they are still the most impoverished and backward culture in the world who command no respect. Wise up – you have been used atrociously!

      • Salman Hossain

        no u fuck face when the global jewish industry of usury which is used by them to monopolize capital destroyed and the international bankers and their surrogates are exterminated…we as Muslims shall rise again INSHA’ALLAH

        death to the jews worldwide!!

        • Hard Little Machine

          We’ll be operating hot dog stands on the moon and you and yours will be squatting round the camel dung fire shaking your fists at god and knife each other over who’s turn it is to sodomize the stable boy.

        • Kiwi

          So typical – when you are losing the battle of words you descend to petty name calling.
          You are just jealous of the success and achievements of non muslims – Allah can do nothing for you even tho’ you evoke his name – what has he done for you in the past that you are still so backward in believing in such a failed God. You and your Allah are all failures in this modern world! All you parasites do is hate and kill – no one has any respect for you and your ridiculous ideology.
          What is there to admire in your history or present contributions to science, technology, peace and goodwill around the world? Pathetic peoples who for some reason believe they are superior in the face of all their failures over 14 centuries. Take your inferiority complex elsewhere and grow up!

    • Hard Little Machine

      I hope you and your entire family, your clan, tribe, village, nation and faith are incinerated in nuclear fires and all of you to the last man woman and child are sent down to hell to sexually service demons for eternity.

      • Salman Hossain

        are u a filthy jew?!?!

      • Salman Hossain

        there are no good jews…..the only good jew is one that is 6 foot under…the ONLY good jew is a DEAD JEW!!!

    • http://www.traditionalisthome.com Jean Markale

      You are clearly not even a real Muslim but a troll.

  • http://www.traditionalisthome.com Jean Markale

    What a convoluted way to arrive at a conclusion which is clearly false.
    Judging from the complete lack of brains evinced by the comments below (not to mention the violence), you’re in like-minded company.