Video by Hamza Yusuf where he actually says Aisha was an Adult when she Consummated her Marriage with Muhammad
Hamza Yusuf Hanson is an Islamic scholar and co-founder of Zaytuna College in Berkley,California in 1996.He is an American convert to Islam, and is one of the signatories of A Common Word Between Us and You, an open letter by Islamic scholars to Christian leaders, calling for peace and understanding. In 1977 he became Muslim and traveled to the Muslim world and studied for ten years in the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and Africa
His books include The Burda (2003), Purification of the Heart (2004), The Content of Character (2004), The Creed of Imam al-Tahawi (2007), Agenda to Change our Condition (2007), and Walking on Water (2010).
A Startling Muslim Critique of Hamza Yusuf by Stephen Suleyman Schwartz
Schwartz is an American convert to Islam,his father was Jewish and his mother Gentile.He is a Sufi and has even written a book against anti-human rights Muslims in his The Two Faces of Islam: The House of Sa’ud from Tradition to Terror(2002).Here is his article against Hamza Yusuf called “The Sufi Master of Deceit”:
Check out Schwartz’ website
It really does have pertinent criticism of the worst of what Muslims are doing,he seems to really be for human rights:
About his Affirmations in the Video
It the video he tries to give the idea that Aisha was an adult when she first slept with Muhammad.Beginning in minute 2:40 he says that Aisha:”gave up playing…..was an adult….she gave up her dolls“.That is not the case,she had not given up her dolls.For him 9 years old=adult, if the girl had her menstruation.
Hamza Yusuf is also wrong about the Age of Crusaders,the Myth of the Children’s Crusade in 1212
In the video he actually says children of 9,10 and 11 went as crusaders in the Middle Ages.I think he refers to the myth of the Children’s Crusade in 1212,where supposedly 30,000 little children went as crusaders.Historians have rejected it as false,one reason being that the Latin word used for the crusaders of 1212 was puer which means boy and also means young man of low social status(not a little child).Read:
About an Argument given by Hamza Yusuf regarding the Age of Mary,mother of Jesus
He said that it was then the custom for a girl to get married at 12-14.That is true.There he stops,what he does not say is:
1.That the New Testament never,ever says Mary was 12-14 when she had Jesus.Her age is never given.
2.He also does not say that Jewish custom said she had to live with her parents for at least a year,with no sexual union,before going to live with a husband.
3.He also does not say the gospels say specifically that Joseph was a tekton.That means he was a day laborer,he had no property,he was not a farmer.He was a landless person.
4.In addition Jewish custom was that a man obligatorily had to give a dowry,money to the wife or her family to be able to marry her.
5.The fact Joseph was very poor means it would have taken him many years to accumulate a dowry,or he could have married her with the promise of getting the dowry later.
In that case she would have lived in her parent’s house for years till he got it,the NT says specifically that she and Joseph did not consummate the marriage till after Jesus was born,so she well could have been 16,17,18 when she gave birth to Jesus.
The Muslim Argument that Aisha already had her First Mentruation at Age 9
Muslims who accept the story,based on Muslim sources,that Muhammad,who was 54 years old,had sex with his last wife Aisha when she was 9, say it is ok since she was an adult.She already had her first menstruation.Are there explicit words in the Muslim sources that say it?No,it is an assumption or reading lines between the lines.
The Argument that Islamic Law forbids a husband having sex with a Prepubescent Girl
From what I know it is true but the Koran does not say it,Muslims have to read lines between the lines.What happened was Muslim scholars were horrified at the thought and decided to forbid it.
The Argument that sometimes Girls have a Menstruation at Age 9
It is absolutely true it sometimes happens but menstruation or no menstruation age 9 is too young,not only morally but physiologically,her body is too delicate.
Maybe Aisha was Not even 9 but really 8 Years Old
Muslims use the lunar calender which is shorter than the Western one,so if Aisha was just recently 9(according to their calender) she would have been around 8 years and 10 months according to ours.
Read the Documentary Evidence that Aisha was 9 Years Old
Plus the following 3 Articles that the Koran itself approves having Sex with a Prepuberty Wife:
Hamza Yusuf is wrong in the Video
He said that Aisha had left her dolls behind when she slept with Muhammad,that it is proof she was an adult.That is not true.The Muslim text say differently,he wants the audience to think Aisha was an adult.But first about the Muslim texts called hadiths.
The 6 Hadith Collections in Order of Authenticity
Among the Sunnis(90% of Muslims) and Hamza Yusuf is a Sunni there are 6 books that have the sayings and deeds of Muhammad and his companions.They are called hadiths.The first two,by Bukhari and Muslim,are the most authentic,for them.
The collections in order of authenticity are those written by:
1.Bukhari (died 870)
2.Muslim (died 874)
3.Al-Nasai (died 915)
4.Abu Dawud (died 888)
5.Al-Tirmidhi (died 892)
6.Ibn Majah (died 887)
Authenticity according to the Muslim Type of Scholarship
For them Bukhari,Muslim,etc used a good method for determining if X information was good.They:
1.Found the chain of transmission of narrators,what they called isnad.So even though 200 years had passed they determined that A was told the story by B,who was told by C,who was told by D,etc,who was told by Muhammad.
2.Then they determined if the narrators were people who had a reputation for honesty,piety,mental equilibrium.If one of the narrators had a bad reputation the hadith was not authentic.
3.They used mutiple attestation.If the saying attributed to Muhammad came from different people,different reliable narrators,then it was evidence of authenticity.
The references about Aisha and her dolls
This is from the second most prestigious hadith collector among Sunnis.
Aisha took her dolls with her when she went to live with Muhammad
From Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311
“Aisha reported that Allah’s Apostle married her when she was 7 years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was 9,and her dolls were with her and when he (Muhammad) died she was 18.”
The other two examples just say she had dolls.
From Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981
“Aisha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allah’s Messenger and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah’s Messenger while Allah’s Messenger sent them to her.”
From the fourth most prestigious hadith collector of the Sunnis
From Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4914
“When the Apostle of Allah arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.
He asked:” What is this?” She(Aisha)replied:” My dolls.” Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: “What is this I see among them?”She replied:” A horse.” He asked:” What is this that it has on it?” She replied: “Two wings.” He asked: “A horse with two wings?” She replied:” Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings?” She said: “Thereupon the Apostle of Allah laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth.””
Here is the Video