Video by Hamza Yusuf where he actually says Aisha was an Adult when she Consummated her Marriage with Muhammad

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Hamza Yusuf Hanson is an Islamic scholar and co-founder of Zaytuna College in Berkley,California in 1996.He is an American convert to Islam, and is one of the signatories of A Common Word Between Us and You, an open letter by Islamic scholars to Christian leaders, calling for peace and understanding. In 1977 he became Muslim and traveled to the Muslim world and studied for ten years in the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and Africa

His books include The Burda (2003), Purification of the Heart (2004), The Content of Character (2004), The Creed of Imam al-Tahawi (2007), Agenda to Change our Condition (2007), and Walking on Water (2010).

A Startling Muslim Critique of Hamza Yusuf by Stephen Suleyman Schwartz

Schwartz is an American convert to Islam,his father was Jewish and his mother Gentile.He is a Sufi and has even written a book against anti-human rights Muslims in his The Two Faces of Islam: The House of Sa’ud from Tradition to Terror(2002).Here is his article against Hamza Yusuf called “The Sufi Master of Deceit”:

http://www.aim.org/guest-column/the-sufi-master-of-deceit-hamza-yusuf-hanson/

Check out Schwartz’ website

It really does have pertinent criticism of the worst of what Muslims are doing,he seems to really be for human rights:

http://www.islamicpluralism.org/

About his Affirmations in the Video

It the video he tries to give the idea that Aisha was an adult when she first slept with Muhammad.Beginning in minute 2:40 he says that Aisha:”gave up playing…..was an adult….she gave up her dolls“.That is not the case,she had not given up her dolls.For him 9 years old=adult, if the girl had her menstruation.

Hamza Yusuf is also wrong about the Age of Crusaders,the Myth of the Children’s Crusade in 1212

In the video he actually says children of 9,10 and 11 went as crusaders in the Middle Ages.I think he refers to the myth of the Children’s Crusade in 1212,where supposedly 30,000 little children went as crusaders.Historians have rejected it as false,one reason being that the Latin word used for the crusaders of 1212 was puer which means boy and also means young man of low social status(not a little child).Read:

http://www.historyhouse.com/in_history/childrens_crusade/

About an Argument given by Hamza Yusuf regarding the Age of Mary,mother of Jesus

He said that it was then the custom for a girl to get married at 12-14.That is true.There he stops,what he does not say is:

1.That the New Testament never,ever says Mary was 12-14 when she had Jesus.Her age is never given.

2.He also does not say that Jewish custom said she had to live with her parents for at least a year,with no sexual union,before going to live with a husband.

3.He also does not say the gospels say specifically that Joseph was a tekton.That means he was a day laborer,he had no property,he was not a farmer.He was a landless person.

4.In addition Jewish custom was that a man obligatorily had to give a dowry,money to the wife or her family to be able to marry her.

5.The fact Joseph was very poor means it would have taken him many years to accumulate a dowry,or he could have married her with the promise of getting the dowry later.
In that case she would have lived in her parent’s house for years till he got it,the NT says specifically that she and Joseph did not consummate the marriage till after Jesus was born,so she well could have been 16,17,18 when she gave birth to Jesus.

The Muslim Argument that Aisha already had her First Mentruation at Age 9

Muslims who accept the story,based on Muslim sources,that Muhammad,who was 54 years old,had sex with his last wife Aisha when she was 9, say it is ok since she was an adult.She already had her first menstruation.Are there explicit words in the Muslim sources that say it?No,it is an assumption or reading lines between the lines.

The Argument that Islamic Law forbids a husband having sex with a Prepubescent Girl

From what I know it is true but the Koran does not say it,Muslims have to read lines between the lines.What happened was Muslim scholars were horrified at the thought and decided to forbid it.

The Argument that sometimes Girls have a Menstruation at Age 9

It is absolutely true it sometimes happens but menstruation or no menstruation age 9 is too young,not only morally but physiologically,her body is too delicate.

Maybe Aisha was Not even 9 but really 8 Years Old

Muslims use the lunar calender which is shorter than the Western one,so if Aisha was just recently 9(according to their calender) she would have been around 8 years and 10 months according to ours.

Read the Documentary Evidence that Aisha was 9 Years Old

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/04/12/documentary-evidence-that-aisha-consummated-her-marriage-with-muhammad-at-age-9/

Plus the following 3 Articles that the Koran itself approves having Sex with a Prepuberty Wife:

http://www.antisharia.com/2010/04/16/is-the-koran-in-favor-of-having-pre-puberty-wives/

http://www.antisharia.com/2010/04/29/more-on-sura-654-and-pre-puberty-wives-2/

http://www.antisharia.com/2011/07/02/about-the-muslim-argument-that-nisaarabic-for-women-in-chapter-654-means-a-man-can-not-have-sex-with-a-prepubescent-wife/

Hamza Yusuf is wrong in the Video

He said that Aisha had left her dolls behind when she slept with Muhammad,that it is proof she was an adult.That is not true.The Muslim text say differently,he wants the audience to think Aisha was an adult.But first about the Muslim texts called hadiths.

The 6 Hadith Collections in Order of Authenticity

Among the Sunnis(90% of Muslims) and Hamza Yusuf is a Sunni there are 6 books that have the sayings and deeds of Muhammad and his companions.They are called hadiths.The first two,by Bukhari and Muslim,are the most authentic,for them.

The collections in order of authenticity are those written by:

1.Bukhari (died 870)
2.Muslim (died 874)
3.Al-Nasai (died 915)
4.Abu Dawud (died 888)
5.Al-Tirmidhi (died 892)
6.Ibn Majah (died 887)

Authenticity according to the Muslim Type of Scholarship

For them Bukhari,Muslim,etc used a good method for determining if X information was good.They:

1.Found the chain of transmission of narrators,what they called isnad.So even though 200 years had passed they determined that A was told the story by B,who was told by C,who was told by D,etc,who was told by Muhammad.

2.Then they determined if the narrators were people who had a reputation for honesty,piety,mental equilibrium.If one of the narrators had a bad reputation the hadith was not authentic.

3.They used mutiple attestation.If the saying attributed to Muhammad came from different people,different reliable narrators,then it was evidence of authenticity.

The references about Aisha and her dolls

This is from the second most prestigious hadith collector among Sunnis.

Example 1:

Aisha took her dolls with her when she went to live with Muhammad

From Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311

Aisha reported that Allah’s Apostle married her when she was 7 years old, and she was taken to his house as a bride when she was 9,and her dolls were with her and when he (Muhammad) died she was 18.”

Example 2:

The other two examples just say she had dolls.

From Muslim, Book 031, Number 5981

Aisha reported that she used to play with dolls in the presence of Allah’s Messenger and when her playmates came to her they left (the house) because they felt shy of Allah’s Messenger while Allah’s Messenger sent them to her.”

Example 3:

From the fourth most prestigious hadith collector of the Sunnis

From Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 41, Number 4914

“When the Apostle of Allah arrived after the expedition to Tabuk or Khaybar (the narrator is doubtful), the draught raised an end of a curtain which was hung in front of her store-room, revealing some dolls which belonged to her.

He asked:” What is this?” She(Aisha)replied:” My dolls.” Among them he saw a horse with wings made of rags, and asked: “What is this I see among them?”She replied:” A horse.” He asked:” What is this that it has on it?” She replied: “Two wings.” He asked: “A horse with two wings?” She replied:” Have you not heard that Solomon had horses with wings?” She said: “Thereupon the Apostle of Allah laughed so heartily that I could see his molar teeth.””

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    From Tahqeeq-e-‘umar-e-Siddiqa-e- kainat (salamAllah alaiha) by
    Allama Hafiz Qari Habibur Rahman Siddiqui Kandhalwi, published in the Urdu
    language by Anjuman-e-Uswa-e-hasana Karachi, Pakistan, 64 pages, no date.

    This book is essential reading for those who want to know the truth about the
    greatest personality of Islam after the Prophet: ‘Ayesha Siddiqa, on whom are
    Allah’s blessings. I first heard of this book in 1987 and finally a friend in
    Karachi managed to find it and send it to me. It’s a very matter-of -fact and
    to-the-point book. Apart from the basic material it provides about hazrat
    ‘Ayesha’s age, it is also a good experience in learning to understand Hadith.

    According to Bukhari’s hadith, narrated by Hisham, supposedly from hazrat
    ‘Ayesha herself, she was only 6 years old when the Prophet married her and only
    9 years old when she went to him as his wife! Another narration in Bukhari from
    Hisham alleges that she was so young at the time of her marriage that she took
    her dolls with her!

    These narrations, being in Bukhari, are blindly accepted by Muslims and are a
    staple of books about the life of hazrat ‘Ayesha. Some people have exploited
    these hadith from Hisham to support child marriages and arranged marriages.

    Those who oppose hazrat ‘Ayesha’s role in Islam owing to sectarian reasons have
    used these hadith to cast doubts on the importance of her role in Islam. (What
    could such a young female understand, they imply and sometimes say outright.)

    Among “modern” doubters of Hadith, such narrations about Hadith are
    another reason for poking fun at Hadith itself. How could a sane, knowledgeable
    person think that a girl of 6 or 9 could have anything really important to
    teach about Islam, they say.

    Also this provided a cause for the enemies of Islam to attack the personality
    of the Prophet himself who would marry a child!

    Most Muslims, however, pass over Hisham’s narration about hazrat ‘Ayesha’s age
    without comment, taking it for granted just because it is in an authentic book
    of Hadith.

    Allama Habibur Rahman’s great achievement is that he has brought evidence from
    the HADITH LITERATURE ITSELF to correct Hisham’s narrations without attacking
    Hadith as a source of true knowledge. Thus Habibur Rahman is in the line of the
    true scholars of Islam, starting with hazrat ‘Ayesha herself, who criticized
    Hadith narrations, NOT TO CONDEMN HADITH as a source of Islam second only to
    the Qur’an but to arrive at real authenticity.

    Habibur Rahman carries out his attack on the basis of the principles according
    to which Hadith should be understood.
    For instance: one hadith by itself is not sufficient to decide on a matter if
    there are related Hadith available in other narrations. There are narrations in
    Bukhari itself, for instance in Bukhari’s kitabut tafseer, which show that
    hazrat ‘Ayesha was older than Hisham’s narrations indicate. Then there are
    Hadith in other books of Hadith about her age, about her role and understanding
    at various points during the Prophet’s life, and about the age of other young
    companions of the Prophet as compared to her age.

    Habibur Rahman also brings in classical books of the study of rijal (the
    narrators of Hadith after the sahaba) to make his point. Finally, he brings
    proofs from the classical books of history which, though not as strict in
    narration as the books of Hadith, do provide details on the issue under
    discussion. He then uses reasoning and physical facts to prove his point.

    The conclusion he comes to is that at the time hazrat ‘Ayesha went to the
    Prophet as his wife, she was at least 19 years old and there is a possibility
    that she was 25. At the time of her marriage she was at least 16.

    During the course of his investigation, Habibur Rahman gives 22 arguments or
    proofs, and also provides some facts which are known to very few owing to the
    generally careless reading of Hadith. It is well-known, for instance, that in
    the battle of Uhud, hazrat ‘Ayesha participated in helping the wounded and
    carrying water to the injured.

    What is not so well known is that ‘Ayesha Siddiqa, whom Allah has exalted in
    the Qur’an (Sura Noor), was the only female Islamic participant in the battle
    of Badr. This the writer proves from an authentic hadith in Sahih Muslim.

    And which Muslim does not know the status of those who participated in the
    battle of Badr! No wonder hazrat ‘Umar (as Caliph) gave a bigger stipend to
    hazrat ‘Ayesha than to anyone else in the Prophet’s family. Some people are
    malicious enough to accuse ‘Umar (ra) of favoritism to his daughter’s friend;
    others claim that it was because she was most beloved of the holy Prophet. Now
    we know that ‘Umar (always strictly just) was giving her more simply because of
    her participation in Badr, because he placed the people of Badr over all
    others.

    After reading Habibur Rahman’s book, one wonders why Muslims ignore the facts
    which are before their very eyes. For example, could the Prophet, pbuh, have
    said this of a 12-year-old girl? (He was consoling Bashr ibn Uqraba who was
    weeping over the martyrdom of his father in the battle of Uhud. The Prophet
    said to Bashr:

    “Wouldn’t you like to have me as your father and ‘Ayesha as your
    mother?” (Could he have said that of a 12-year -old?) Of course many
    readers ignore the fact that 14-year old males were not allowed by the Prophet
    to participate in the battle of Badr. Could he have allowed
    “10-year-old” ‘Ayesha to do so?

    As the Allama very rightly pointed out, ‘Ayesha (ra) was not one to play with
    dolls. She played with swords and her participation in battles was the result
    of her youthful training in battle arts.

    She was a young woman when she came to Madina and she knew the entire gamut of
    classical Arabic poetry which she recited when she visited Bilal and her father
    Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with both) who fell sick soon after arriving in
    Madina.

    The Allama’s comparison of the ages of Fatima, Asma, Osama (Allah be pleased
    with them) with that of ‘Ayesha from authentic narrations leaves no doubt that
    he is correct and Hisham’s narration is incorrect. About Hisham, the Allama
    documents that he became weak in his narrations when he moved to Iraq in his
    71st year. That’s when he narrated about hazrat ‘Ayesha and her dolls. His Iraqi
    narrations are not accepted by Imam Malik who accepted his earlier ones. There
    are indications that old age and other factors had their impact on Hisham.

    From tasa’ ushra (19 in Arabic), he forgot or managed to drop ‘ushra, thus
    keeping hazrat ‘Ayesha’s age as 9!

    My understanding is that Allah brought hazrat ‘Ayesha into the Prophet’s
    household at the age when she was in the prime of youth, intelligence and
    ability, so that through her the Prophet, pbuh, could educate the young people
    of all times to come. She was more his friend and companion rather than just
    his wife. (They had no children.) HER HISTORIC MISSION FROM ALLAH WAS TO BREAK
    THE CHAINS OF FEMALE SLAVERY and to provide a frank and honest portrait of the
    Messenger’s private and personal life to the billions of human beings who would
    follow the uswa of Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him) as commanded by the
    Qur’an, for all times to come.

    There can be little doubt that the Example of ‘Ayesha (whom Allah has exalted)
    is an essential part of the example of Muhammad (salAllaho alaihi wassalam).

    This article originally appeared in New Trend magazine, July 1989